Jarvo90
Are the latest Cosworth Pi and Pectel software packages compatible with Windows 8 and 64 bit operating systems?

I'm looking at getting a new PC and just want to make sure I get one where everything works.
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AlastairF
Hi,
Pi Toolset is the latest in PC software from Cosworth and is fully compatible with 64bit Windows operating systems such as Windows 7/8 and later.

From V4 onwards Toolset is no longer compatible with Windows XP and unfortunately we do not recommend Mac.

When choosing a PC we would recommend one with a network port as Toolset uses TCP/IP style communications. If you plan to use your PC on a corporate network for example then we recommend using a dedicated USB to Ethernet adaptor because Toolset requires the IP address of the port to be fixed. All the network configuration is handled inside Toolset and can be reverted to previous settings quickly and conveniently.

Offload uses ethernet and is fast and automatic. Some of the offloaded data for the endurance racing people can get quite large, so if you need to store data and use Pi Toolbox intensively then maybe a PC with a reasonable size hard drive and memory larger than say 4GB is probably going to work best.
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Mark_F
Futher to AlastairF's comments above.

I have found Toolbox 6.x+ to work on Win XP+ 32/64 bit
I do not believe Toolbox 5.x variants will work on Windows 64 bit OS.

I have had success using the latest versions 9.X and above of Workshop/Server on Windows XP+ 32/64 bit.

The biggest hangup with Windows 8+ is unbinding the Sixnet protocol to hidden adapters.  These will stay hidden and bound to sixnet due to Window's changes in how it presents network adapters.

I found techniques that reference the strategy below to present these in Device Manager.  While this STILL does NOT allow you to view them in Network Adapters, it does allow you to disable the ones that may affect Sixnet protocol.

Show hidden Network Adapters



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Boaty
I am about to buy a new MacBook Pro and run Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 as virtual machines. Can you tell me if that's possible?

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GCCR
Hello,

Are we concluding here that CalTool and all the other latest Pectel Software is compatible with Windows 10 ?  
I too am looking to buy a faster Laptop with i7 Processor running 64Bit Windows 10. 

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Rob_Jarvis
Hi GCCR,

Yes all of our current software is compatible with Windows 10 and 64bit operating systems.

If you have to use the old Desc software for whatever reason you will need to use a virtual XP machine.

Many thanks

Rob

Cosworth Support
Cosworth Electronics 

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GCCR
Cheers Rob. Thanks for the prompt response.
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GCCR
Hello again,

So, I have my new Windows 10 laptop and Caltool works fine. However, on another thread on this forum you mention that the only way to update my SQ6 software version - mine is 10 years old - is via a serial port to the ECU. 

I have two isues with this...

a) I don't have an RS232 outlet socket on the new Laptop, so would a conversion adapter USB to RS232 work or is there further config work that I'd need to do with either the Laptop or the SQ6 ?  

b) The only RS232 outlet from the ECU is to the MoTeC dash. Can I re-configure this to allow me to "get at" the ECU to update the software ? 
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littleozfella
Hi GCCR.
                       You can use a USB adapter.. Just make sure you get a good quality adapter. I personally use Panasonic CF52 toughbooks, you can get some good ones re-furbed these days for about $500 or so..    I would suggest if possible you make a bench-top power loom and not use you car harness, the issue is you should do updates with all ancillaries and sensors disconnected.   you just need 12v, 0v, and RS232 TX, RX and 0v.    Beware if you update you can send your new file to the ecu through the serial port but if you have it configured as a dash comms port (not PC comms) then after you send your file you wont be able to connect to the ecu again with RS232.. Don't panic, you havn't broken it.. Plug back to the car loom and use Ethernet or CAN..
                 Re Win 10.. I find it the best for all software i use..  It is also great with Descprow, BUT you cannot install it.  As Descprow does not rely on being installed, all you need to do is copy the complete folder from your old laptop into C: you will find all the graphics work normally and are even the correct colours.   

cheers
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GCCR
Thanks for all that. Appreciated. 

So I have now....

a) Finally got the USB to RS232 adapter to work with Windows10
2) Altered the Serial channel to Pectel in Communications drop-down in Caltool
3) Gained access to the SQ6 via a serial connexion. Yessss! 
4) I'll take your advice and disconnect all the loom sensors etc. 

All I'm waiting for now is the more modern software and instructions on how to load it properly. Oh, and a list of the parameters that may need revising post-update.

By the way, I'm perfectly happy with Caltool so won't be revising back to Descpro.  


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GCCR
Just one last point...as I use Caltool already can i not just re-assign the rs232 link to the dash when we finish upgrading the ECU ?  (Rather than use a new CAN connexion)...?
  
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littleozfella
Hi..
        you Don't use Caltool to update the code. it is a self running exe file. You connect to the ecu with RS232, power up the ecu, then run the exe file, it will ask you to choose coms port and then instruct you to reset the ecu, so switch off and on and the code load will progress. Be sure that the process is not interrupted, ie make sure your laptop has enough power in the battery or is on power, make sure the power is not lost to the ecu..   Please watch this happening there are some notes on the way.. this usually takes a couple of mins, after that it will tell you it is finished.  Power cycle the ecu and send your updated file via whatever connection method you wish, I usually use rs232 as I am already connected with it..


 cheers..
               
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GCCR
Thanks.

I've done as per your instructions.

The final screen reported Flash Program updating complete or something very similar.

I've also now sent Gummi and Rob the Dataset I HAD loaded before the update.

However, when I now connect to the SQ6 using Caltool it reports "the metafile is not available for this device. Please try importing one"


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GCCR
In case there's anyone around who can help with this, here's the dataset I sent.....Ooops, I just found there's no option to attach anything. Do you have an eMail address ??


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